I was talking recently about all the resources which are now becoming available for personal transformation. Here is another one: Jyothi (or Jothy). Have you ever heard of it? No, neither had I. I reflected for some time before passing the following on to you because I usually like to have some understanding of the background of what I'm talking about. I know nothing about Jyothi at all, so please understand that this is the basis on which I publish these details. All I can add is that it appears to be genuine enough and Chris and I have signed up for it ourselves. So it seems like the right thing to give you the same opportunity! I suggest you take a look and see how you feel about it. Here is the information...
(Nov 25th: I have now removed the information because the transmission has already taken place and the link is out of date. There will be further transmissions in the future and I'll post about my own experience in the comments. I've now located the relevant web site, so if you would like to know more, please take a look here. If you received the Jyothi transmission and would like to share your own experience, please add a comment here.)
Ick.
Posted by: Sue Ann Edwards | November 21, 2007 at 09:17 PM
Thanks for your feedback Sue Ann. I'll let you know what I think when I've tried it!
Posted by: Secret Simon | November 21, 2007 at 09:45 PM
You can do it on your own. You have no need for Prana Siddhar's 'old' energy vibration. That's what I 'icked' about. The 'old' paradigm's vibration. If that's 'highly evolved', then the standard's not too high.
Posted by: Sue Ann Edwards | November 21, 2007 at 10:08 PM
Of course, I admit, I've never considered sitting on my ass and 'om-ing' a few bars to be much of an achievement, spiritually, either.
Reaching 'nirvana' isn't the issue. It's bringing it down to earth and applying it in ways that improve physical living conditions that counts.
Posted by: Sue Ann edwards | November 21, 2007 at 10:16 PM
Hi Sue Ann – I fully agree with your most recent comment. What’s really important isn’t how we feel when we meditate or whatever. It’s about bringing that same experience back with us into our lives and keeping it with us while we interact with the world.
But how do we get to the stage where we can do that on a regular basis? I’ve been there for short periods but I’m nowhere near stabilized. You say we can do it for ourselves. I fully accept that *you* did it for yourself. I’ve read your blog. You became a monk – or, at least, the equivalent thereof. (I suppose a nun would be more accurate but it doesn’t have the same resonance somehow!) By which I mean, you renounced the world – and pretty nearly died in the process. What some of us are hoping – and many teachers tell us we can do it now – is to make the transition without that renunciation, and it seems to me that to do that we need all the help we can get!
Nothing’s going to do it for us. But things can help us do it for ourselves. You’re helping me. Eckhart Tolle is helping me. Meditation’s helping me. Deeksha is helping me. Maybe Joythi will help me too. It’s up to me to use the resources I’m given. But when I shut down the computer or close the book or end the meditation or whatever, I have a choice as to whether I take that with me into the world or simply revert to my old program. I do a bit of both. But which choice I make is my responsibility.
Can we *really* do it all for ourselves though? I’m starting to doubt it. A lot of teachers speak of Grace, of enlightenment ultimately being something which is bestowed. When I’ve had those brief glimpses of a different way of being, it as though it is something which has *happened* to me, almost like a change in the weather. In one of your posts some time ago, you spoke of the change in you being something which ‘just happened’. It seems to me that this may have come about in the same sort of way.
So I reckon that what we can ‘do on our own’ is to prepare ourselves, to be willing to quiet our minds, to feel the stillness, to face our suppressed emotions and allow ourselves to release them. This much is planting the seeds. But we have to trust in the universe to also send the rain.
Some may find the idea of ‘Grace’ a bit alarming, almost like the Divine Being anointing the chosen few. But I don’t think it’s like that at all. It’s much more ‘down to earth’ then that. It’s like cleaning a dirty contact… to allow Electricity to flow.
Hmm, I think I should make a post out of this…
Posted by: Secret Simon | November 21, 2007 at 11:49 PM
You have a very skewed view of my life. A very distorted one. And it's OK, I certainly understand. For one thing, monks and nuns aren't married. Nor do they raise kids.
I did what I did to prepare myself for Now. There needed to be some of us going through first. So we could be prepared with our washcloths and warm buckets of water to help ease others as they, too, get see-sick.
For we expand and our minds and hearts become illumined, as we are able to cope with what we're going to see. Because underneath the 'veils' of maya, is the ugliness we don't want to admit to.
When we can see, it often makes us sick. Heart sick.
Yes, it was hard on me. But a lot of that had to do with my timing. It takes a lot of Heart for a salmon to swim upstream. But I made it and in the end, chose to stay here, signing up for another 'tour of duty'. A 'carrot' was held out to me, the one experience I'd never had before. That's why I am still 'here'. It is very much possible for some of us to literally die...of boredom.
Some of the most 'spiritually evolved' among us tested how fast we could go in the 60's. John Belusi, Janis Joplin, etc. So there are strict safety guidelines set in place as to how fast we go. As 'hard' as you might imagine, I'm still here. Obviously, I experienced EXACTLY what I needed to experience to make it to 'here'.
Like I said, when we hook a transmission line up to a toaster, we've got to re-wire the toaster, if we don't want to make toast out of it.
I try but, obviously I haven't found how to get the message across. Self Doubt blocks comprehension everytime.
{{{{{Simon}}}}} I've read your wonderful book and I know why it hasn't been picked up. {{{simon}}} You are more 'spiritually evolved', then you give yourself credit for. You 'birthed' a child of your soul into this plane. You experienced Creativity flowing through you. Giving proof of your Creator status.
And it's only the model, the 'ideal' that you've been using to measure yourself by, that is the cause of your own Doubts and misgivings. My words are trying to say to trash the model by which you judge yourself by. It is perverted.
Yes, I have walked the talk and have the experience of it. But the only kind of authority that makes me, is my own. I am Sovereign over the Kingdoms of my Heart and Mind.
My guidance has always been and will always be to direct you inward. So that you may come to recognize your own Sovereignty, too.
The river, so to speak, has turned now. Now I'm not swimming against the flow. But the flow is now flowing opposite, what most of us are used to. We're getting caught midstream with the currents no longer with us.
You imagine you're not doing too well because you only get glimpses that can't be maintained. Can you Trust that you are Lovd so Completely, that these glimpses are the perfect experience for you and simply recognize your own Ascension has begun?
The whole cause and reason for your physical ailing, was to herd you inward. We're all being herded. Herded by aliens out to enslave us? No. We're being herded by Spirit. And if we have't yet turned inward, then that's OK, too. We will be given ample motivations in our future. Sometimes in the form of closing all other doors.
I have the sniffer of a bloodhound when it comes to the resonances of 'old' and 'new'. And really, all I sought by my comment to do, was illuminate one from the other.
And my Husband would roar in laughter if he heard me compared to a monk or a nun. I'll find the picture of me, in 2nd grade, dressed up like a postulate and, that's about as close as I ever got.
I'm earthly. I'm real. I count strippers and meth addicts among my friends. And if I can ever screw up enough Courage to do it, I've already got a perfect set of nipple rings for after they are pierced.
I turned my back on a world I did not value.
And found value that I'd never recognized before.
The POWER of GOD is inside of you {{simon}}. You've simply never Trusted it. Just like the rest of us.
But!
You did write that book...
Posted by: Sue Ann edwards | November 25, 2007 at 05:35 AM
I keep coming back to this statement...
"Can we *really* do it all for ourselves though?"
That IS the purpose. If we didn't, it wouldn't be our Mastery.
You Doubt your own Presence, which we all do.
One thing I can unequivocally say, is that everytime I ever made a decision based on Doubt, Self Doubt, Doubting that 'God' was with me, I brought on really really unpleasant consequences as a result of that decision.
Posted by: Sue Ann edwards | November 25, 2007 at 07:49 PM
And the teachers that are writing that we can get there without going through a renunciation, HAVEN'T made it, either. Nor will they, with that attitude.
Posted by: Sue Ann edwards | November 25, 2007 at 08:02 PM
We cannot rise above the world of maya, while still enthralled by it, basically. The 'renunciation' stage, is turning our backs on the world of maya. Refusing to servce it and refusing to add any of our life's energy, to it. We walk in the world after that but are not of it.
Posted by: Sue Ann edwards | November 25, 2007 at 08:19 PM
A real big grin on my face and a twinkle in my eyes...
"Some may find the idea of ‘Grace’ a bit alarming, almost like the Divine Being anointing the chosen few. But I don’t think it’s like that at all. It’s much more ‘down to earth’ then that."
Then don't say 'Grace'. Say 'substance of character' and say it like you expected us to have some. The 'chosen' are those of us who chose ourselves and chose to create that substance of character within us, to actually give substance to the words we profess.
This lack of substance, is wjhat forms the basis for our world of maya.
Posted by: Sue Ann edwards | November 25, 2007 at 09:09 PM
Hi Sue Ann - It's been kind of quiet here in the blogosphere while you guys over there have been thanksgiving, but I see that you've come back full of energy after the holiday! Thanks for *all* your comments!
I wasn't meaning to imply that you'd embraced a full monastic lifestyle, Sue Ann, but as you say "I turned my back on a world I did not value". This is what being a monk or a nun is essentially about, it seems to me, hence my comment.
I'd like to discuss this renunciation business further with you but it's all a bit complicated and it's getting late so it'll have to wait till tomorrow...
I'm glad you liked the book! I'll send you an email to discuss this a little but further too. But just so no one reading this feels left out: I sent Sue Ann my unpublished children's fantasy novel, 'The Shop On Peculiar Hill'. You're all welcome to read it too - just get in touch if you're interested...
I'd love to know what that experience is that you've never had before, Sue Ann! But thanks so much for being there with the washcloths and the buckets of water. I'm glad to hear that at least the water's warm...
Posted by: Secret Simon | November 26, 2007 at 12:07 AM
Hi again, Sue Ann - Many thanks for your very encouraging comments, by the way! But just to try to clarify this renunciation business: it seems to me that the reason monks did what they did and turned their backs on the world was to make it easier for them to lose their attachment to material things. Which has always struck me as a bit of a cheat, because it has to be relatively easy to lose your attachment to material things if you don't have any. I guess a contemporary western equivalent would be to give up all your possessions and walk the streets: a rather more difficult option.
Another extreme way to lose attachment is to come to the stage where you just can't stand it any more: when your dreams keep coming to nothing or you're haunted by the past or are driven to unbearable fear for the future, or all of them rolled into one in the kind of triple whammy which the egoic mind loves to inflict upon us. You can't stand the struggle to be this or that or the other any longer so you just give up and simply *be* instead. You lose your attachment to any kind of outcome. Eckhart Tolle describes this as 'the way of the cross'. It is 'enlightenment through suffering', he says, 'it means to be forced into the kingdom of heaven kicking and screaming'. Tolle went through such an experience himself.
Tolle goes on to suggest, however, that it is now possible to reach a state of non-attachment without going through such extremes. He says: 'enlightenment consciously chosen means to relinquish the past and future and to make the Now the main focus of your life. It means choosing to dwell in the state of presence rather than in time. It means saying yes to what is'.
In other words, we can become enlightened by *choosing' to change our mindset, rather than being *forced* to change it. Sri Bhagavan appears to promise a similarly 'smooth' transition, one in which there is - of course - pain, for emotions must be experienced and released, but one in which it is still possible to continue a 'normal' life.
This is what I meant when I talked before about achieving such a transition without renunciation. I didn't mean that one's attitude to the material world would remain the same. Of course one would have to lose such mental attachments. I meant without actually burning down the house.
So having - I hope! - clarified what I meant, Sue Ann, I wonder: do you think that such relatively 'smooth' transitions are possible, or is this wishful thinking?
I also wonder: did you turn your back on the world in order to precipitate your change in consciousness - or was your change in consciousness the result of turning your back on the world?
Posted by: Secret Simon | November 26, 2007 at 11:40 PM
Here's a bit of feedback on our experience of the Jyothi transmission which was the subject of this post. We set the alarm to be ready for 8am in the morning when the transmission was due to come through - so we got to see the sunrise. It was worth getting up just to stare through the window at the sky as we waited for the energy to come through.
The experience for me was rather like a mild version of Deeksha, which I am lucky enough to be able to receive in person. My mental chatter quietened and I went back to bed to lie in a peaceful stupor for a while. The main difference from Deeksha was that I felt a definite warmth around my heart chakra. Jyothi appears to come in through the heart chakra, whereas we normally receive Deeksha through the crown. Chris felt less than I did, though she said that she was very much *wanting* to feel something, so this might have been the problem. My experience is that expectation tends to get in the way of such things.
So: able to receive Deeksha as we are, I'm not sure we need this too - but that may change in the future. If you don't receive Deeksha, then free transmissions of positive energy such as this may be invaluable. And of course, you may find that you respond more strongly to this than we did. Apparently there will be further transmissions in the future. Take a look at the web site. I've given the URL in the post.
Posted by: Secret Simon | December 03, 2007 at 11:40 PM
You misunderstand {{Simon}}. The difficulty and the challenge is in how you see "attachments". You see them as something precious, something of worth and of value. That is why we are attached to them. Whereas, these same "attachments", I see as a pile of *crap*. It's easy to be uninterested in *crap*.
The renunciation, is a renouncing of what is known to be worthless.
Unless I was choosing to create an experience of frustration and disappointment, then I wouldn't count on our realities of 'maya' being maintained. There is NO energetic support for it anymore.
Most monks are still entralled. Their vows of poverty prove my point. That and, their inability in relationships with the opposite gender, indicate seperation from their Divine Feminine. Half's, in other words, certainly not Wholes. And the cause is a belief in an impersonal Deity. No Intimate KNOWING can ever come of it.
Me? Yes, I have lived without many of the comforts a lot of us are afraid of doing without. I don't want to be pestered by a lot of the nonsense many of us hold dear. I have also lived on over 16 acres of rainforest. Tell me {{Simon}}...have you ever felt so free and joyful in being alive that you ran naked through the forest?
Posted by: Sue Ann Edwards | December 08, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Not in *this* weather, Sue Ann! Though seriously, there have been times when I have experienced delight in the simple joy of being. Not so much in recent months however - you were right to warn us about this time!
When you write of losing attachment to cr*p, what springs to mind are all the electronic gadgets we're invited to buy at this time of year - and yes, I am starting to lose my attachment to such things. It is starting to seem like too much trouble to take them out of the packet. Advanced, aren't I? Sometime soon, I'm even going to stop buying the d*mn things...
But then I remind myself that losing attachments is about something more than that: being prepared to lose the people to whom you are close, your health, the roof over your head... How do you lose attachments to such things as those? Do you come to think of them as 'worthless' too?
Posted by: Secret Simon | December 09, 2007 at 12:05 AM